Sunday, February 13, 2011

Space, Time and the Paradox of an Existance Without Time

In the course of human history, the wonders of the Universe have baffled and confound us beyond all complexity. We marveled in awe at the stars above, and the plants below. But, this topic is going to talk about the thing that seems to have awed us above all things : the observance of Space and Time. And today we will also be tackling the fantastic myth that somewhere exists a place where you can have Space, but not Time (in particular, the religious concept of an Eternal Heaven).
This will not be a philosophical rant today, but a mathematical proof that this entire proposition about a Timeless existence is utter and complete bullshit. (It may be a set-up for something later on along philosophical lines.)

A Brief History Lesson

There was one thing that seemed to be bred within us above all others - a realization that tomorrow is the future, yesterday was the past, and today is the present. We could recognize this very early on, and we were born knowing this fact. With this passing of facts and scripting of History man, and recognizing that we are born, from old, and then die, mankind was birthed with an awareness of Time.
It intrigued us to the point of wishing we could change the past, or have long-term events in the future foretold to us by surveyors of the heavenly bodies and the workers of spiritual things outside our own existence. With this realization came a common-knowledge fact about humanity:

Yesterday is set in stone. We are living today. We may or may not be living tomorrow.

We also became aware very early on that things had dimension. If you saw a very small rock on the horizon, sure enough you could walk to that rock and discover that it was truly a mountain. We also learned that, with a little comparison, we could determine how EXACTLY big things were, such as how exactly dense they were ("EUREKA!" Archimedes! [ref]) and the dimensions of such objects beyond our measurements (the Pythagorean Theorem was utilized by civilizations MUCH older than the theorem's namesake [ref]).
The area that these things take up is the object's dimensions in Space.

It was not until the grandmaster of popular Science, Albert Einstein, came around that we realized that the two ideas are fundamentally linked together in his popular Theory of Relativity [ref]. This theorem and the formulas proposed not only perfectly calculated the paths of Mercury, but also provided an accurate ideal for the measurement of Gravity, Mass, and Motion that Newton's Three Laws were incapable of calculating.

The Math

But enough history. It's time to move on to the point of this lesson: The Relativity of Space and Time, and how one cannot exist without the other. For this, I will refer to one of the more morbid consequences of travel at near-light speeds through space:
When two observers are in relative uniform motion and far away from any gravitational mass, the point of view of each will be that the other's (moving) clock is ticking at a slower rate than the local clock. The faster the relative velocity, the greater the magnitude of time dilation. This case is sometimes called special relativistic time dilation. It is often interpreted as time "slowing down" for the other (moving) clock. But that is only true from the physical point of view of the local observer, and of others at relative rest (i.e. in the local observer's frame of reference). The point of view of the other observer will be that again the local clock (this time the other clock) is correct and it is the distant moving one that is slow. From a local perspective, time registered by clocks that are at rest with respect to the local frame of reference (and far from any gravitational mass) always appears to pass at the same rate.
This observance is known as time dilation [ref] and refers to the drastic alteration of an experience of time as one travels through space at high speeds.
What we can conclude from this mathematical observation is that Space is inherently linked to time in terms of a reference to time as we travel through space, and can be summed down simply:
The faster we're going, the more laps we can do around a track in substantially less time relative to the observer. However to us who are going faster, the objects in space begin to blur and our experience of time is separate from those others.

This is why Speed, a measurement of our travel through Space, is calculated as the following:
Speed = Distance/Time

The Fallacy

Now with the lesson in Space-Time relativity done: now comes the part of destroying this utterly foolish claim that the Afterlife can have Space, but not time. It will be both short, sweet, and to the point:
Time is a relative concept based upon your travel through Space. All that is required for Time to exist is a Space to move through.

Let us use the calculation above:
Speed = Distance / Time

Now, utilizing the Distributive Law [ref] (something one learns in Grade-school Algebra):
Distance = Speed * Time
Time = Distance / Speed

So, let's put me in this fantastic Afterlife : and I decide that I want to see if I can run as fast as a spiritual being as I could as a Mortal. I find (to much annoyance) that when I had counted to 5 (I cannot use seconds - the conjecture is that Time does not exist), I had only managed to travel 15 meters. So, I can calculate my speed as the following:
Speed = 15 meters / 5 counts (ct)
Speed = 3 m/ct

Of course, from this, I can calculate how far I could travel by the time I had counted to 10:
Distance = 3 m/ct * 10ct
Distance = (3 meters / 1 count) * (10 count)
Distance = (3 meters / 1 count) * (10 count) (Simplification)
Distance = (3 * 10 meters)
Distance = 30 meters

And now - I just heard some dipshit Spirit talking about how there's no time in this place with Space, so I told him to watch as I performed the following conversion of my non-impressive speed for running 60 meters:
Time = 60 m / 3m/ct
Time = (60 meters) / (3 meters / 1 count)
Time = (60 meters) * (1 count / 3 meters) (Reciprocal Flip)
Time = (60 meters) * (1 count / 3 meters) (Simplification)
Time = 60 count / 3
Time = 20 count

So, what is the logical conclusion we can draw from this scenario? It is simple:
If you can measure space, you can measure your travel through it.
If you measure your travel through Space, you can ultimately come to find a measurement of time.
All that is required for Time to Exist is motion and the ability to count. -_-

Final Thoughts

As a man of Logic, I captured this claim as bullshit right off the bat. Space and Time are combined fabrics of our existence. They are the combined measurements of our locations within any place, what space we take up, and our position at a certain point of time in the existence you are.
These are the baselines for any existence in any place which cannot be altered nor debated. If you're traveling through it, Time exists in it...

Unless the next words out of their mouths are that Heaven is located within a Singularity, lacking Definition of Space, then they have no other talking ground.


  1. What if you take the second entrance first?

  2. You should take a class in Applied Mathematics and Physics - or one of the college-level science courses, and when the teacher gives you a problem to solve, and gives you a cap on the number of pages you can have...
    A Maximum number of pages in which to solve a single logical system or equation...

    Then you can see why this is merely "Brief." :D

  3. Just came across this in "The Grand Design", interesting stuff.

    As Dr. Who said it: "[time] is more of a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey.. stuff.."

  4. time is more fun when kept musically :P

  5. but great posts i remember being young and always wanting to read more hawking and more about the egyptians and theories of time and astronomy